Quoting Winston Churchill,
“Bitter moments between two possibilities, between two futures, between light and darkness. This warrior did not falter, did not fear, and so he vowed: his country will fight at sea, in the air, on the beaches and even on the streets itself. Even starved and subjugated, his country would never surrender"
Wow ! That must be one tall order just to win additonal votes in the coming GE13. The colossal amount of money &; time to be spent and the massive deployment of manpower. Khairy should just forget the whole thing pick up his phone and call : 0162928131 THAM THAMSARAK aka ABU THAM a tshirt printer cum peddlar
From the successful printing and sales of BERSIH tshirts, LYANAS tshirts and the massi ve crowds at those successful rallies and also other printing like ABU tshirts he made a tidy pile (plus afleecing /running away with monies of his peers who are also tshirts peddlars).with very much less resources like in Churchill's strategy. So Khairy J. what are you talking about this coming grand GE13 preparations.
OK Khairy is not so dumb or poor as to follow the below
Benny Loh Johnny it is because of my trust in you that I gave in to this guy. I have plenty of shit from this guy- Johnny Ong Just imagine I didn't get a single cent for all the the T-shirts designed & sold. I have learned my lesson for trusting somebody. I m done with him.
Fa Abd Kareem Benny: We all have had our shares from the dude. We learn and move on.
Johnny: Its ok, it's a lesson learnt
What's goes around comes around, remember?
- Jan Chow glad that you didn't have to pay him, imagine he sold me "wholesale" price by boxes, later i saw he sell the same price online to every1 else by single order, all my client come to complained to me that i sell too expensive
- Johnny Ong Sorry Benny Loh for introducing him to you. I thought of him as a sincere friend. For those friends who got conned because of me, my sincere apologies.
- Jan Chow the boxes were delivered 3 months too late and not a penny of discount, now just sit there unsold.. i am seriously unhappy with this guy.
Andre Rizal That's horrible! Partnership like that la bro.. anyway hang in there Wanna get one of your latest book! Where to buy bro?
Linus Chung yikes...i hope u are okie.
i hope it's just a loss of income
n not a lost of investment too
- Benny Loh He didn't impress me much as a man on the first meet, it was more of a ' conmen look' that I had of him.. There's plenty from the associations I had with him but slowly lah Johnny it will be out.
- Johnny Ong Tks Andre Rizal, you can get it thru Kino KLCC & Times & Borders will be carrying it soon. If you want to get an autograph copy, I can sent it to you. Will send details to you soon thru PM
- Andre Rizal Your first book is still being kept in good condition on my coffee table.. and I must thank Kasthuri Patto for it
Tommy Hng When money is involved, TRUST NO ONE!!! Use logic and THINK!!! And, there's no such thing as easy money. Am glad that no one lost his/her entire savings to this conman.
Anthony Chew Ohhh ... I have learn similar lessons long long time ago bro. Betrayal, disappointments, you name it. When things are smooth-sailing, oh yes, they're nice and approachable and very helpful. When things took a different turn, gosh ... they become defensive, selfish and totally another character. That's because somewhere along the line, either we have no longer any advantage to them, or whatever we're doing with them has no longer of any benefits. They can't tear themselves away so they're making a big fuss over it.
When things like this happen, just walk away, don't fight, don't argue with them. Time will have their way with them - God shines on kings, beggars, the good and the bad, leave it to God to take care of them.
Cheers bro, take care
Manivannan Letchumanan well i dont know the complete story, this is only one side of the coin, so i cannot agree nor disagree with this statement. since you have nothing to do with him that is fine. that i can understand, and praises to you Johnny Ong, for being diplomatic about the whole affiar.
Lee Huong Sing Friends are many, true friends are few. You know the strength of the horse only when the journey is long. Do not trust someone who you just know.
Ar Yang Noora long time ago i did removd him too coz d word.. early in d morning status wall all suka maki n mncarut.. all d 4 letter words come out n curse.. negative person..
Asiah Dahalan How unfortunate for U Johnny Ong & the rest who are affected. Got your Q when we met at the dinner but just couldn't find time to discuss further...Akak bought quite a number which he delivered. Sorry that the fund didn't get to U...
Tham Thamsarak...how could U take advantage of everybody & get acquainted dgn Akak on the pretext of interest in Islam. Saddened by this turn of events. In business, the circle can be very small. Please...out of due respect...return what is due to the respective business acquaintances...or else... as sayings in Islam...life will not be easy for U..
Jun/Senin is also affected, a fren who is more in need of the income from their business transaction with U esp with the health condition of their son. Such uncalled betrayal is shameful coming from U. If there are some goodness left in U, please do the needful & be responsible for your wrongdoings... esp to Johnny & others as well...- Asiah Dahalan Johnny Ong..for future business transaction, no matter how small & how well U knows a person be it even family members...put it on paper so that if things go down the drain U can take legal action against whoever at default.
- Benny Loh I have no problem trusting any cartoonist at any time, so Johnny you are still a trusted friend
- Asiah Dahalan Ustaz Mohd Fadli Yusof...maaf sebab kenalkan yg berkenaan pada Ustaz. Nampaknya kita tertipu. No wonder dia beri alasan setiap kali saya nak aturkn pertemuan dgn a few ustaz...Jika Ustaz boleh bantu tarbiyah dia dgn hikmah utk pulangkan sgl yg dia terhutang dgn beberapa org di atas...lbh baik.
Wallahua'lam.. Jazakallahu khaira Ustaz... 
Bernard Khoo Two incidents when we travelled together to Kuantan for Himpunan Hijaun was sufficient to access this character. I told you to sever your relationship. I just hope Zunar did to.
Maureen Khoo Phaik Hong It's very SAD that in our midst while we are all working our heads off fighting against all the evil tendencies of those in positions of power that issues though small should take place.
- Benny Loh Several times I caught him hiding\observing from the corners on people and I do recollect weirdos and conmen of this kind before
Valerie Mah Angus 马碧美 Johnny, so sorry to hear of your misfortune. God is watching, not worry.- Benny Loh "Bernard Khoo Two incidents when we travelled together to Kuantan for Himpunan Hijaun was sufficient to access this character. I told you to sever your relationship. I just hope Zunar did to" I alos hope cm Mr Lim and Harris Ibrahim do too. He was names-dropping lately
Ronasina Kartunis Ok bro.noted. But last week we met him in new office and i thought everything s clear.
MangoLiar Goes Wild I am glad that I managed to recover back 50% of the sales!!! Otherwise I am in deep shit like Johnny Ong!- Johnny Ong FYI I don't like to expose anything like this. But many of my friends are involved so I have to do my part to inform. It's up to them to trust him or not. It's not about money...I don't care whether he pay me or not anymore. It's all about integrity and trust. I just don't want my other friends to get into trouble because of me:(
Faszt Alin Adan Tapi why is it Tham dgn kami, ok je, ya...?? And have to say, he is one of those who have helped us TREMENDOUSLY.
Maybe there's a way to approach this level-headedly and CONFRONT him presonally rather than attacking him like this?
After all, we are all brothers and sisters. In one way or the other,EVERYONE HERE has helped EVERYONE ELSE. and a lot of the impartial parties here are hearing to one-sided stories.
Has ANYONE here actually do the approaching of him? And what did Tham say? Did he run away?? Have to he fair also to him and let him defend. Kalau tak,kita pun macam Umno jugak,hehe
I mean, KKI & GAK are like adik-beradik...a support system. Kindalike difficult to mend if it's broken like this... :((
You take care, Abg Johnny. Hopefully the anger, disappointment and frustration shall never happen again to you or anyone else here.- Johnny Ong Sori Faszt Alin Adan, I have given him many chances to make good his promises but to no avail. He is one shrewd guy and knows who to get close & bodek. Sadly Alin, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I will PM you the details soon. Ask him why he's trying to avoid me & Lawrence all the time.
- Benny Loh "Have to he fair also to him and let him defend. Kalau tak,kita pun macam Umno jugak,hehe" Yes I hope he can defend himself here!
- Faszt Alin Adan Yeah i heard some stories too. but like Zunar,i always thought that what personal is personal. Tak pe lah,tak perlu PM me the details. Bukan Alin yg selalu deal dgn dia...it's Zunar. kalau nak PM,PM zunar cukup, kot...
Kam Agong Lawrence Jayaraj Johnny Ong your message is LOUD and CLEAR. You have done your part. Lets leave at that.
Kamalakannan Veerapathran Tham Thamsarak - You should tell your side of the story. Your silence will not help.- Johnny Ong I hv set it to 'Public' so he can comment here. Pls do. I will temporary close this post in 24 hr time.
- Kamalakannan Veerapathran Johnny Ong - Bro.Your posting has reached Tham. He messaged me in FB telling that he can't explain himself because he has no access to your posting. Can we do something about it. End of the day, I hope we can solve this misunderstanding amicably so that the other side don't take advantage..
- Benny Loh "kamal: so that the other side don't take advantage" referring to people with their money in his hands I suppose?
- Kamalakannan Veerapathran Uncle Bernard Khoo : Ppl who are in Johnny's list and commenting here might not be in his list as well. That is why. Any how, he must explain. I'll request him to just do it on his wall..
- Kamalakannan Veerapathran Benny Loh : "The other side" that I meant was the groups who are supporting the powers that be. Frictions among ourselves can be a great advantage to them..
- Bernard Khoo People, I think we have over-reacted. Johnny Ong is not asking for his pound of flesh. He is not that type of person. If you want to have as a friend a congenial, simple, straightforward, most pleasant, always going out of his way to help.....that is Johnny. In his posting he just wants us to know that he has no more dealings with Tham.
- Benny Loh In return and unaware he has unearth the dirtiest scum here who not only con him but so many of his friends here
- Kam Agong Lawrence Jayaraj Just called Johnny he told FB blocked him from commenting or posting .....
- Ridzaldy Rafie There are ways to spot the average con man and with a keen eye, they can be spotted a mile away. Thx Johhny for the sharing.. and I'm sorry for whatever difficulties u are having right now for being a righteous person.
Zarina Mohd Zaki I'm sad this thing to happen at this juncture, where everybody have to unite and cooperate. However I pity Johnny Ong...hope things will not happen again...
Johnny Ong II Yup ppl, for time being I can't do much with my ori FB acc been blocked! But I will strive on and carry on what is necessary. Since he's not keen to reply here or bother to contact me but can called other ppl then I rest my case. FYI I did this posting with a heavy heart because I still get enquiries about him and there a case in Sabah as well. I don't intend to prolong this issue any longer and will temporary close this posting tonite at 12am. TQ everyone for the support and understanding. To the ppl that is not comfortable with my posting here & tags, my sincere apologies again.
Azman MatNoh Setiap sahabat ada gunanya...tapi sangat kurang ajar bila sahabat mempergunakan sahabat..
- Kam Agong Lawrence Jayaraj To whom it may concern you borrowed my van and knocked it lepas tu buat do know...! Ayiooo
My coversations with him to recover my money for 100 tshirts since his earlier 1st and 2nd printing is only 10% in colour and cannot be marketed at all and the third printing of 60% colour showed that Tham Thamsarak aka Abu Tham has no basic knowledge of printing multi-coloured tshirts (after all his bragging on printing tshirts). I have others who printed print 120% on all three images above and they were so lovely but I chose Johnny Ong's advise in giving him the business. Copies of these 120 % excellent printed tshirts were shown and given to him (yet to be returned)
- Conversation started Sunday
- Benny Loh
When I propose to return the balance of the three hunderd tshirst which in the first place (it was YOUR mistake). You said you didn' t FORCE me to take. This tshirts printing was lousy (60% colour)
The first two images of 100 tshirts were returned to you as the images of both were only 10% colour. You were FORCING me to print with you . I cannot accept your printing. I wish to have your answer ENcik Abu - Monday
Tham Thamsarak
Why after 6-7 months? And moreover the problem now is that u can't sell it and you ask me to take it back, I think is unfair.....we are talkin about the quality now, I been doing for dap, pas and pkr and so far no complaint, please advise, thanksYour order was dated 26-3 2012 and now is 3 -12-2012- Benny Loh
I am talking about the order for 100 unit.
On this 300 units, you make a lot of noise showing your anger that you have the moulding made and I said you come over and I will pay you for the moulding (even though there was a stop order immediately).
It is only when you came over that you said you ordered and made the printed tshirts and almost crying . I took pity on you because you are johnny's partner and the tshirts are all copyrighted and you cannot sell. This you conveniently forget and you told me on your last meet with me about less than a month ago that You did not FORCE me therefore I am responsible.
The 100 unit after seeing three image printings 1 image of 50 tshirts and another image of also another 5o tshirts were only 10% colour. (The earlier 300 units which you printed on your own was 60% colour) This 100 trshirts I am talking about now you cannot FORCE me to print with you. Your agreement to pay me 100 unprinted tshirts for $2,000 cannot be acceptable.
Let's not complicate the 300 units now I am talking about the 100 units which my money is in your hands - Tham Thamsarak
after accepted orders and u can't sell and now u want me to take it back ,i don't think it works and u try to sabotage me on Facebook ,please don't be so childish ,i call u on 23 Oct u never wanted to answer and i send you a message by 9.59am on that day ,asking you to call me but u never ...so what u want me to do ? - Benny Loh
Cut this stuff out , My phone is on silent mode. and 9.59am on 23 Jan you never leave any message. I call you several times but you have black listed my number I think.
( The order was stopped but I don't know why you went ahead and print I even offered you the blocks price of $250 which is not my mistake as I already stopped order.) Refer to the earlier messages which is already answered but you chose to repeat. I STOPPED ORDER. it was your mistake in printing and almost crying AND SEEING THAT YOU ARE JOHNNY'S PARTNER I took it. You came to collect the block which is $250 that I was lenient to pay you but you came to tell me your mistake in ordering INSTEAD!!!!
PLease don't say these 300 tshirts were ordered. Like you said you didn't FOCRE me in accepting so you are not responsible. I have no claims here.
But the 100 units at $2000 which you collected from me and all the three samples were 10% ,10% and 60 % colour. is enough you cannot FORCE me to have the printing with you. i am still interested to know about the 100 tshirts at this point
I protected you on facebook by suggesting that you must be heard anyway that post was by Johnny ong. I call you several times but you have black listed my number I think. Is this the issue you want to talk about when I am talking about the 100 tshirts which money is in your hands. I can bring up the shody business you do in YMCA cafe yet I go along with your cash demands etc but you mentioned printers (punishing) etc as I only know I am dealing with you - Tham Thamsarak
I never blocked anyone and why should I? U can always call me with another no if u really want, your shirt can be sold is because of your design and your fren Johnny said that u are carried away with your cartoons and don't know wtf you are drawing, he even told me not to give credit to you........ I did offer you 100 t-shirt as a courtesy but u refuse and now after such a long time, now u make issue ...fyi my no is 016-2928131 - Benny Loh
November 1st- 2nd week 2012you told me the balance of the 300 tshirts is my responsibility as you did not FORCE me to take. So lets talk about the latest meet.
The 100tshirts money you collected and the images of the first tshirt and the 2nd image is only about 10% color , who the fu_k can sell this type of tshirt. The 300 tshirt is ony 60% in colour. However I showed you before giving the business as you are Johnny's partner one I printed elsewhere is 120%. That tshirt also you have to return to me. You cannot FORCE me to print with you.
The 100 tshirt you offer is november 2012 1st-2nd week is it too long a time.
Why are you going into my work
1) I am not carried away
2) If cannot sell why you immediately print three hundred copies which is not my instruction.
3) what type of printer are you. Don't you have a responsibility towards your client
You have a sample of the tshirt I made elsewhere I could sell the Tshirt anywhere
4) How come I have sold half of the tshirt despite the poor printing
5) You don't know much about your job. I am in sales for 40 years. Whatever you do or say I know what you are up to
6)What is your purpose of calling me childish and bringing these irrelevants
You offered me 100 unprinted tshirt at $2000 that you held on. Why not I do this favour to you I sell you white tshirts 100 pieces at $2000?
I still want to hear about the 100 thirts money. You cannot Force me to print from you again.
You have blacklisted my mobile phone and when I used my house line I could get you. What does it prove by printing your number here. I also give you my number 0163302121. What do I prove here? I say your phone cannot be reach before, you have blacklisted my number earlier and when I called from my house you immediately pick up. I don't think you are keen about my number as well as I am on your number.
Let's not beat about the bush
I still want to hear about the 100thirts money.You cannot Force me.
I say your phone cannot be REACH AND YOU REFUSED TO PICK UP, I TRIED WITH MY HOUSE-PHONE, YOU IMMEDIATELY PICK UP - Tham Thamsarak
No point of bullshit or arguing here, u can meet me anytime u want, u ask me to print and I ask u if u need sample before I proceed and u said no need and now talk noncense, stop all this and meet up if u want, thats it - Tham Thamsarak
Go for court order and fight for this case, no point blaming each other, I am willing to pay u full price if I found myself default, let the lawyer judge and I am willing to pay the fee - Benny Loh
Ok it 's settled You are not paying. SeE you talk cock with my money you are holding. Your shoddy work of collecting my money in YMCA and no receipt but some in checks. You take me to court first for wanting to pay me 600 tshirts at $2000, if you win I am willing to take if you win. - Benny Loh
2:59pm
Johnny Ong
Ask him (Tham) to fuck off. Simply creating story to create fiction between us, Benny. I did mention to him be careful because of the 4 colors printing and do thing properly. I told to him not to rush the job if he can't handle it. Bloody asshole guy!!
Benny LohHa Ha you sure a popular - Benny Loh
I was busy for the mony you collected from me. You really have ambitions to be popular.
My God this guy is really focussed to succeed! Making use of his partner to access the partner's contact and cheating his partner of ALL the money , using his vehicle for transportation (and also others damaged vehicles upon return) cheating so many of his peers as shown in earlier posts. Finally to get big orders from PKR, DAP & PAS for 1-colour tshirts.We all know what a 'pariah' is but this guy is the LOWEST class of pariah. He got the cheek to talk about meeting solicitors for a decision!
I wonder if he has a licence to print under his name, if he has I will cut my ear and jump into Pahang River too!
The officers from JABATAN HASIL DALAM NEGERI OR THE INCOME TAX DEPARTMENT OF MALAYSIA should come after this guy. Have you seen those rally crowds and this guy is dealing with so much tshirts. These are crowds like 350,000!
12 comments:
Yes,tham sarak is a bad guy. I kena too.
I am his landlord. Long story. He is a terrible. My nightmare started since the day i rented out my shophouse to him. He lie a lot. Always find ways to rip me off as much as possible. I am suing him for court order and rents that he owe me. Because of him, i and my family suffering s lots. Especially my husband, my baby,and my old parent. Also, my health condition deterioting because of him. So many sleepless nights he brought me. I pray hard to god he will recieve all effects for the karma he caused. He is an evil man with foul heart.
Shit has hit this guy, Abu Tham now, just recieved this :
Hi benny
How r u getting on?
Jz for yr info.....my friend has already kicked ABU Tham out.....
ABU Tham now in deep shit with debts....even owe banglas RM30k
Haha
Another shit hit Abu Tham, the world is small lah, Don't screw people around, encik Abu Tham
To Benny,
Yup.....he screwed his best friend's wife until they divorced 2 mths back
Benny Loh
12/4, 11:29pm
Benny Loh
He got a best friend?
Hi, Benny, thanks for your information. He is so awful. I wonder his wife knows about his mess with his friend's wife.
Hi Benny,
Thanks for your information. He is so awful.... He will tear down his own family.
Abu thsm finally give back my shoplot on 10-12-13. But still refused to pay rents due for 2 months and utility due. He didnt appeared for hearing in court on 19.12.13. Guess i should have won a judgement. But dont think he will pay back what he owe. Will go for further legal action until he pays. Let the court deals with him, and he will end up paying more inclusive those expensive legal fee.
Oh my God!!! Only if I know of this article earlier. That bastard Tham is really a Con-man. Cheated me 24K of goods. He went around showing my partner and me his factory and offices, but infact all the machineries and shops don’t even belong to him, not even 1 % belong to him. He bragged about his company’s successes, puiiii!!! Shameless..using others back side as his own face. And oh my..he whacked his best friend’s wife behind the friend’s back. What a scumbag. He tells me that his ex-partners double crosses him and how he suffer, well I think he is the one who double cross everyone and con everyone. He will show you that he’s cash rich and pay everything with cash. I think he don’t even have a bank account. He might be a bankrupt or backlisted.
In the office he will Fu*k everyone to their past 3 generation ancestors as if his staffs (or some one’s staff) has no parents. Shame on him to use these kind of foul languages in open environment. But the best things is these workers allowed him to be scolded in foul languages. Oh..saw the women that he sleep with in his office. Wow..she really got voice. She would scold at her loud voice at every instance that allow, regardless if you are on the phone or talking to others. It was a sight to experience, just like a wet market. Didn’t know she was someone wife. Bad for her.
Well if anyone see this THAM please avoid at all COST. Biggest conman. Took my money but never deliver the goods until today. Pass this message and his pix to as many person as you can especially in this t-shirt industry so less people suffer or being con by this GUY.
Sorry to hear that. Big time CON MAN. Pls avoid at all costs!
You are so right. Tham is big con men. If not i gave him court summon. He wouldnt have give back my property. I was totally ignoredfirst. Only picking up my husband call after hannah yeoh stepped in as he always brag how close relationship he is with hannah and anwar. Anwar like his father. He agreed to move out in 2 weeks. After 2 weeks still nothing happen to him. He told my husband he need to "slowly slowly move out". Cant said a confirmed date. I know his pattern. So i gave him court summon and set a time, asked him slowly slowly talk to judge. Then only within 2 weeks i have my key back.
Abu Tham moves around with and make use of Johnny ong & co to get to pose in photos with guys like Hannah, Anwar and even CM LGE. He makes all sorts of close relationship claim with them.Pariah con-man!
This is what I thought of this cunning conman tricks was true after all. He only takes pics with VVIP and makes use of them. Created a bad names for PR. This guy is shameless.
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